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I want to ask sci-fi lovers here, did anyone read Cradle from Arthur C. Clarke and Gentry Lee? If yes, did you like it? I've found it very strange…
I read some of SyFy, but I prefer classics.
Well, I'm really a literature addict.
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You say that like Arthur C. Clarke was not one of the greatest sci-fi writers of all time.
But there's a higher chance that I have misunderstood you.
Arthur C. Clark has all my respect, I think he's one of the few good sci-fi writers.
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I mostly read music (auto)bios and other music books. Right now I'm on "Our Band Could Be Your Life" by Michael Azerrad, detailing scenes from American punk and indie bands of the 80s. Other ones I've read are Scar Tissue, Lennon Remembers, and Jimi Hendrix: Stories Behind the Songs.
I also read comics like KA, Scott Pilgrim, Invincible, The Walking Dead, and Crossed.
I like some philosophical books like Fight Club, which I still have to finish, and Days of War; Nights of Love.
Mysterious Stranger by Mark Twain is good.
I guess I like a variety of genres but it's hard to find time for everything.
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>>76>philosophical books like Fight Club
Is that the Fight Club which the movie was made of? What's philosophical in that?wall of text incoming
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The whole notion of both the book and the movie is about the emptiness of consumerism and the ways people try to escape it. It also deals with issues such as death, social classes, loneliness, jobs/careers, anarchy, and social communities.
>Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems, such as those connected with reality, existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language.
I mean, there's tons of quotes with a blatant philosophical essence:
"You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world."
"It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything."
"The things you own end up owning you."
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I watched the first movie in the cinema, because I thought it will be something. But it wasn't, it's the dumbest chliché ever!
Jennifer Lawrence is awesome in it, she is pretty and she can act, she is the only good thing in that movie, despite Donald Sutherland and Woody Harrelson. But what is wrong with it?
Let's see: Random girls and boys from a huge country, but all of them look like athletes, they all have perfect skin, perfect teeth, none of them is overweight, too skinny, too short, too ugly, none has pimples or even glasses! How the fuck is this possible, even if they don't live in complete poverty? BUT THEY DO! How is it possible that Katniss has perfect teeth and perfect skin if she is starving with her family and they live in a mining state?
Also, in 1997, Takami Koushun wrote Battle Royale, which is about a totalitarian state which makes kids slaugther each other.
Suzanne Collins writes The Hunger Games which is also about a totalitarian state which makes kids slaugther each other. IN 2008. Stealing much?
In Koushun's book, the kids are really random, even in the movie, they look random. And in Battle Royale, everything is real, not just a dumbass simulation with CGI "dogs" and "sponsors" who always lifts the main character out of the shithole they are in, like the Hand of God…
Seriously, the HG movie had 0 character development, and I couldn't relate to ANY of them. None of the deaths has any effect on the viewer, because none of the characters are important. We can't even see how they are dying or why, and there's like 20 of them, and 4 or 5 has a name or a recognizible face. If I think about it, I can name Katniss, Peeta, the little girl, the mean girl and that's all. Where are the other 16 kids? And who are these 4? What do we know about them? NOTHING.
I haven't read Collins' books, but the movie is a stupid, americanized ripoff of Battle Royale, with unnecessary romantic twists, so it could hardly be any better.
>It has the best politics topic that empower our times in present and past time
Oh really? Watch Brazil, In The Land of The Blind or even V for Vendetta. Or read 1984.
>a female protagonist who don't need a superpower to be someone
This must be why you love it. I like female protagonists, but I couldn't relate to this girl at all, despite Jennifer is pretty and a good actress.tl; dr: Hunger Games is a Battle Royale for Twilight fans… What Twilight is to horror is Hunger Games to it's genre…
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You are so wrong in many levels and you missed the point of the entire saga… read the book and then we can talk about it
DON'T FUCKING BRING TWILIGHT SAGA HERE… NO WAIT A SECOND.. THE ONLY FACT THAT YOU JUST BROUGHT THE ENTIRE TWILIGHT SHIT IS THE PROOF THAT YOU DON'T KNOW A SHIT ABOUT THIS MOVIE
>>Let's see: Random girls and boys from a huge country, but all of them look like athletes, they all have perfect skin, perfect teeth, none of them is overweight, too skinny, too short, too ugly, none has pimples or even glasses! How the fuck is this possible, even if they don't live in complete poverty? BUT THEY DO! How is it possible that Katniss has perfect teeth and perfect skin if she is starving with her family and they live in a mining state?
I think we alredy overcome this phisical aspects when Chloe was choose for play Carrie.. but that is just opinions i guess.. i think most of it were skinny because the were.. i don't know.. starving! And only the professionals looked like athletes
>>Suzanne Collins writes The Hunger Games which is also about a totalitarian state which makes kids slaugther each other. IN 2008. Stealing much?
Lmfao at the best! at the best… if you only capt that about the movie… then again i cant talk to you
Sorry if i was rude but you were rude to me first
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I wasn't rude, those are obvious facts. You can look at the Battle Royale movie, they made the kids believable physically, and it's not a big deal to hire an overweight guy or an ugly girl…
>Lmfao at the best! at the best… if you only capt that about the movie… then again i cant talk to you
What else was there? I must have overlooked them because of the stupid CGI dogs and the scene where she sits on the tree and out of nowhere, a sphere conataining food, water, medicine and all goodies appeared to her aid out of nowhere, because she is such a lucky person….
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Sorry if I offended you BB… I just don't like that movie, it was a big disappointment for me
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Gotta love it when you are reading a book, and for looong-loong chapters, the writer is yapping about a character you hate. And 90000 pages later, he/she brings back that dude again and you can read about that stupid shit again
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Any Nabokov readers in here?
Lolita is great, love it, but still struggling with Ada or Ardor, it's a book I would say is just as great (so far) but damn it is hard to read. Good old uncle Vlad fires with full power here, often a mix of several languages. It's a love story written in the form of a family book, quite an awkward family book though as it's mostly about a sister and brothers incestuous relationship.
"The aging woman who sold barley sugar and Lucky Louse magazines in the corner shop, which by tradition was not strictly out of bounds, happened to hire a young helper, and Cheshire, the son of a thrifty lord, quickly ascertained that this fat little wench could be had for a Russian green dollar. Van was one of the first to avail himself of her favors. These were granted in semi-darkness, among crates and sacks at the back of the shop after hours.
The fact of his having told her he was sixteen and a libertine instead of fourteen and a virgin proved a source of embarrassment to our hell-raker when he tried to bluster his inexperience into quick action but only succeeded in spilling on the welcome mat what she would have gladly helped him to take indoors."
I love this perverts writing.
and his schizophrenia description is also fantastic
"She developed a morbid sensitivity to the language of tap water—which echoes sometimes (much as the bloodstream does predormitarily) a fragment of human speech lingering in one’s ears while one washes one’s hands after cocktails with strangers. Upon first noticing this immediate, sustained, and in her case rather eager and mocking but really quite harmless replay of this or that recent discourse, she felt tickled at the thought that she, poor Aqua, had accidentally hit upon such a simple method of recording and transmitting speech"
Of course, he was a genius.
Anyway he is not my favourite russian neither american author
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It seems I have read at least 16 books this year. Actually one of them is an album, and one is a little pocket book, so maybe those doesn't count, but it's still 14!
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Exactly how I felt reading Let The Right One In. The Virginia/Locke storyline, despite helping drive the plot, kind of left me disinterested about half the time.>>237
Nice nice!. I only managed 5>
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kind of a longshot but what the hell. as a fan of both batman and hp lovecraft i was pleased to find out about the existence of the doom that came to gotham. has anyone read it? it's 70 quid on amazon. also slightly more likely has anyone read let me in: crossroads?
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I was going to buy LMI: Crossroads but John Lindqvist hates what they did to his story. Still, I might have to pick it up if I run out of things to read
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the art is nice at least. i still haven't read the book because in the first few days of Chloë madness i spoiled it by going on the lmi wiki.
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I did the same thing. I ended up forgetting alot of what I read on the wiki page when I read the book though. It really is a lovely well written story and just adds so much more to owen/abby/oskar/eli.
Unless you meant you haven't read LMI: Crossroads. I think i'm going to try grab a copy and give it a chance.
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Imo, Crossroads was a waste of time and talent.
- The story is basically the same as the movie, but instead of the woman with the dog, someone else turns into a vampire.
- It focuses on the "father" figure, who would be an interesting character if Abby were not present. Seriously, you have the coolest 12 year old looking ancient vampire girl who is cute as hell and sad and awesome, who wants to read about the father instead?
- Abby is kinda degraded to a supporting character…
I say it adds a little to the father's figure, but nothing else, and it wasn't really necessary to do it.
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Thanks Mackra. I don't know anything about you but I enjoy our chats wholesomely>>>309
I was extremely iffy about getting it so I'm glad you wrote that.
Have to keep an eye out for a new book now once I finish up Carrie
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I read lots of fiction, maybe I can recommend ye some. Or maybe not…
What kind of books do you like?
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I love Palahniuk's stuff but It's kind of hard to read his stuff sometimes. I'm more drawn to John Lindqvist and King's writing style but I'll honestly give anything a go. Would love any recommendations that you've got
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I haven't read anything from those guys, except short stories from King. I can recommend you books I've liked, but it would be easier if you could determine some genre?
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me too. i'm a brit, 6'11 tall, like let me in and have family in darwin. you, i believe are australian, enjoy let me in and make music. i don't think we are ever on this board at the same time. never read king or palahniuk unfortunately. lovecraft is horror, but my god is it hard going sometimes. a song of ice and fire for me is the marmite of fantasy books, you'll love it or hate it. lies of locke lamora slightly cheerier, as it was described to me as oceans eleven mixed with oliver twist. hope that helps .
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>>317>gothic, horror, comedy, satire
Horror/Gothic: I've read a good short story compilation called The Giant Book of Vampires. It has lots of small and some bigger novels, the big ones are really good, and some of the short ones are damn sick. Every author had a different view on the night's children - som eare bad, some are very good, and there are some average ones too.
Satire: I don't know if it's available yet in English or not, but the novel Er ist wieder da from Timur Vermes is a satire I think. The story is this: Hitler didn't died in 1945. Something happens and he wakes up in Berlin, but the year is now 2011… And guess what, he gets a job, at the local tv, because they think he is an imitator! It's an amazing book, it's funny because this man has to catch up on such everyday things as internet, colored tv, mobile phones, etc. and also it's pretty strange that you will actually start to care about him and maybe even like him, despite he is still Adolf Hitler.
I don't read comedy nowadays…
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That's pretty much spot on. I heard Lovecraft's stuff is absolutely terrifying so I'll have to scout through his books and see which ones look the most appealing. Someone recommended A song of Fire and Ice to me before so maybe I should check it out>>319
I'll have to look up the Giant Book of Vampires but it sounds like it's down my alley. I wish an english translation of Er ist wieder da from Timur Vermes was out because that sounds like an amazingly interesting premise. Thanks man. If you have any more recommendations for any books you loved from any genre, let me know.
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I've read one short story collection from Lovecraft. There was one story in it, which was goddamn frigthening… I have to turn on all the lights in my room, it made me so afraid. Sadly cannot remember the title.
>A song of Fire and Ice
Yeah… It's out for more than 10 years and now everyone wants to read it because of the series. No series=just a small group of people cares. Same with LotR. No movie="nobody" cares…
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I think thats my whole gripe with Horror. It can kind of mean two different things. I think I prefer stories that have tinges of horror elements (Let the Right One In, King etc) and aren't straight up horrifyingly scary.
I haven't watched any of Game of Thrones shockingly enough and it seems like I'd have to dedicate a massive amount of time in finishing the series which has kinda made me a bit iffy. I just picked up a book called The Fault in our Stars for some young adult fulfillment but I think I'll also look into the Book of Vampires collection.
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>>323>The Fault in our Stars
I think that will be made into a movie soon
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satire, some comedy and horror. bret easton ellis american psycho. it is disturbing stuff. iv'e only been more disturbed twice, the comic crossed and the extreme french film martyrs. it's difficult to get in australia i believe due to its reputation. also check em.
Yup yup, I think they got Shailene Woodley for the lead. I just hope the books as good as people say.>>327
Oh! A friend recommended American Psycho so I should try and pick that up too.
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Can I contact you somehow outside the boundaries of this place? Do you have a fake email adress or a twitter/Skype account? I want to ask you something
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Not a problemo, contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org
No idea where bear came from, or why I still used apheta
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Book store finally confirmed my order of The Fault in our Stars
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Watup whilst this on the topic of books and shiz, i wrote a short story which if im honest was fully inspired by my love for Chloë, erm ive shown it to a few of my mates and they liked and im ready to show it to the world lolhttp://forherstory.blogspot.co.uk/
Be gentle with judgements. :D
Mackra (b4f6) 414
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there are parts of your story that hit me pretty hard. i'd imagine there are quite a few of us who are like christian, relatively goalless individuals who use obsession to escape our dull lives. i've tried to finish this post numerous times but each one was more depressing than the last so i'll just say i liked it.
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I promise I'll give it a read soon when I get some time. I'm interested.
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finally on the 4th book of Hyperion Cantos
If they made a movie out of this, Chloë would be absolutely PERFECT as Aenea… but I hope they never do because it would be a disaster.
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Seriously, even the limited edition jacket for the 2nd book depicts Aenea looking a bit like Chloë (a bit weird since Aenea doesn't show up until the 3rd book, but whatever)